This week introduced us three extra new episodes of Andor, and one step nearer to subsequent week’s sequence finale. This trio was in all probability probably the most spectacular and devastating but, bringing the occasions on Ghorman to an incendiary head and bringing some character arcs to a sudden and everlasting finish.
If you happen to missed our dialog about final week’s excellent episodes, you may discover it right here. Now, let’s speak about three of probably the most compelling episodes of tv in latest reminiscence.
Zack Zwiezen: So I feel these final three episodes are my favourite Andor episodes of season 2 to this point and perhaps the complete sequence. From what occurs on Ghorman, the stuff with Mothma, and the heartbreaking ending seen in Episode 9… it was all so good!
Carolyn Petit: It was. Up to now I’ve taken notes as I watched, simply so I had a number of issues to refer again to after we do these chats, however with this week’s trio of episodes I used to be simply so captivated and horrified by the sluggish, inexorable buildup to the occasions of episode 9 that I completely forgot. I nearly couldn’t consider how good these episodes had been. However let’s begin firstly.
To begin with, it was cool to get a glimpse of life on Yavin, to see the attractive house that Andor and Bix share there. Now if I ever rewatch A New Hope, I’ll have a fuller image in my thoughts of how necessary this place was for the Rebel in establishing its foothold, and what life was like there when its members weren’t off participating in operations to subvert the Empire’s efforts.
Ethan Gach: We clearly want to start out with the bizarre pressure therapeutic stuff, which I’m certain Zack can clarify. It was an odd nod to the magical aspect of Star Wars we by no means see in Andor.
CP: Hahaha. I did just like the point out of Maarva hating Drive healers, or at the least hating one Drive healer. It’s important to suppose that’s a discipline inhabited to a point by scammers and the Star Wars universe’s equal of manipulative woo-woo YouTubers.
ZZ: We see a few of that within the Obi-Wan present, with the man pretending to be a Jedi. I think about pretend Drive Healers are a factor and I get why Andor is cautious about them. Actually, I really like that fashionable Star Wars is making it clear that the Drive isn’t one thing everybody believes in or understands. For a lot of, its this bizarre magical factor they scoff at.
As for Drive Therapeutic, we primarily see Jedi doing it—like Grogu and Rey—but it surely’s been a factor in Legends and Canon for a while earlier than that and anybody with a deep connection to the Drive might in idea do it. However there’s additionally debate that the individual isn’t actually therapeutic them, however as a substitute the Drive needs to ensure that the injured individual is healed to proceed on their necessary journey or goal. The Drive Healer even mentions that it doesn’t at all times work to Andor.
And we all know Andor goes to do some necessary stuff in Rogue One. So it is sensible that the Cosmic Drive would intervene to verify he’s wholesome and in a position to maintain shifting ahead on his journey. And I feel that’s what the girl sensed.
Did you all just like the Drive being included in Andor? I’ve seen some combined reactions on-line
CP: I don’t thoughts it as this sort of fleeting little bit of worldbuilding element that informs our understanding of the characters. I feel it helps that the actor enjoying the Drive healer was so good, she actually made probably the most of her temporary time.
I wouldn’t need it to turn into a bigger aspect or to overtly affect the story in any manner, however right here I noticed it as a plot gadget that illuminated the truth that Cassian is feeling uptight and closed off in bigger methods, and it additionally gave Bix one thing to consider.
EG: And now Wilmon is again with “One Final Job…” and Cassian is working out of time to determine if he’s going to turn into knowledgeable insurgent or not. I at first thought the plan to go snipe Dedra was their very own as payback for Ferrix, but it surely appears perhaps Luthen is eager to lastly bag the spy that’s been monitoring him for years earlier than she will be able to come again and end the job.
ZZ: Yeah, I believed it was revenge too. And it’d nonetheless be, however I agree. I feel Luthen is attempting to tie up some unfastened ends.
I feel the one 12 months leaps between every three episodes has labored properly. Nevertheless it was used completely right here to point out us how a lot Ghorman has modified since we final noticed it. Seeing the plaza crammed with Imperial troops, blockages, and reporters spouting propaganda actually confirmed how a lot progress the Empire has made in taking this place over and crushing the folks.
So the place can we land on Syril and Dedra? I feel these episodes appear to point out that she genuniely cared about him. The kiss, the best way she is anxious about his security, needs him to be stored within the constructing away from the protestors and chaos exterior, and so forth. I received the sensation that in some twisted sick manner she actually liked Syril. She had a reference to him and perhaps it was merely that she wanted to have one thing to look ahead to after doing what she did on Ghorman and being with him again on Coruscant was that finish purpose. (edited)
EG: Sure I feel it did a extremely good job of exhibiting two totally different accomplices to fascism.
The one is obsessive about preventing “exterior agitators” and the opposite is simply chasing the following carrot from their boss. They’re each unnerved by what’s occurring, however extra on the unpleasantness and due to the way it complicates their self-mythologizing, slightly than due to the precise evil and ache concerned. She’s like simply neglect about this genocide. A dozen extra folks had been prepared to drag the set off if I didn’t. However now we will return to Coruscant and chill and perhaps get invited to some fancier events.
CP: Yeah, that reference to Syril, unusual because it was, was additionally probably the most real human factor in her life. Some a part of her actually was trying ahead to that time the place this was behind them they usually had been collectively once more on Coruscant.
I feel the present navigates that line properly. It doesn’t ever make Syril or Dedra really sympathetic (not but, anyway), but it surely does discover how fascism strips those that carry it out of their potential humanity as properly.
ZZ: Talking of Syril, that second when he sees Andor was excellent.
Every thing in his life is falling aside. The girl he liked betrayed his belief. The Empire he labored for is really evil in a manner he’s lastly understanding. His total life is shattering and falling aside. And proper at that second he sees the motherfucker who type of put all of this in movement for him. And he simply loses it.
CP: Proper, it was one other instance, perhaps the very best one but, of one thing I feel the present has completed a outstanding job of throughout all three episode drops we’ve gotten: taking conflicts that exist on each a private, intimate stage, and on a bigger, extra political stage, and weaving them collectively such that they actually construct up, complement one another, after which collide in ways in which have large emotional payoffs within the climax to every little mini-trilogy. The non-public is political, and boy does Andor realize it.
ZZ: Sure! We this occur in later when Andor saves Mothma. They’re each scuffling with private conflicts and that instantly ties into the larger political battle engulfing the galaxy. Beautiful stuff.
However again to the chaos at Ghorman. After Syril leaves Dedra, however earlier than recognizing Andor, we see the empire shove out some younger troopers into the indignant crowd as bait
CP: My coronary heart sank as that occurred. What a approach to depict the utter ruthlessness of the Empire, intentionally sacrificing its personal greenest recruits for this false flag operation.
ZZ: The second that bastard despatched them out, you knew what was coming. After which the Imperial sniper aiming at not the protestors, however the guards, and beginning probably the most brutal and arduous to look at sequence in a Star Wars present or film.
CP: Proper. The present needs us to know, needs us to really feel the inevitability of all of it, because the Ghors stand there fantastically protesting. It actually was gutting, to not point out simply distinctive tv.
EG The present has been leaping round a lot this season, each in time and site, it was good to lastly see the entire pressure erupt in a single place for a protracted time frame. Disgrace on the Ghormans for utilizing their fellow residents as human shields although.
ZZ: Top-of-the-line moments in all of this, going again to Carolyn’s level in regards to the present weaving smaller and larger conflits collectively, is when Syril tackles Andor they usually battle for a bit.
From Syril’s perspective he’s attempting to kill the asshole who ruined his life and put him on this place. He hates Andor. However from Andor’s perspective he’s like “Who is that this random dude attacking me?”
CP: It’s superb! “Who’re you?”
ZZ: You’ll be able to see Syril in that second understand that Andor by no means cared about him. By no means knew about him. Nothing. He means nothing to him. After which he will get killed. No particular dying. No redemption. Simply an indignant dude who thought he could possibly be a great individual in fascist evil empire realizing how small he was. Then dying.
CP: Every thing he’s poured his vitality into for all these years, and for what? To be hated by these he’s seemingly discovered to respect, just like the Ghorman chief, and to be fully unknown to the main target of his obsession. I do marvel what the ramifications of his dying will probably be within the last run of episodes, although. I in some way suspect that we haven’t seen the final of his mom.
Additionally, talking of all of the chaos on Ghorman, one little element that I actually favored was the resort worker uttering that well-known line, “Rebellions are constructed on hope.”
Fairly often I feel one of many worst tendencies of latest Star Wars is its impulse to clarify all the things, to fill out each mysterious area in its mythos, however this little nod resonates for me. It feels genuine and human, somewhat manner of recognizing that each particular person’s contribution to the battle issues. Like, I completely consider that Cassian would do not forget that, and keep in mind his interactions with the person who stated it.
ZZ: Yeah! I agree that Star Wars far too usually needs to clarify each element and place it neatly in a timeline or a wiki. However that was a second that labored for me as a result of it confirmed that no voice is simply too small in a insurrection. This random resort clerk on Ghorman finally ends up having a huge impact on Andor and later Jyn Erso and her allies. In some methods, you could possibly join him to the profitable mission to steal the Loss of life Star plans as seen in Rogue One.
After which after Ghorman we get Mon Mothma’s plan to name out the Empire publicly on the senate. A second we’ve learn about in canon for years, however lastly get to see. And what a speech.
CP: What. A. Speech.
EG: Adopted by top-of-the-line escort missions I’ve ever seen.
I like that even because the Rebel is gearing up and there’s increasingly outright insurgencies brewing, we nonetheless get a giant dose of Star Wars spy craft. What could be simply one other blaster mild present takes a a lot sharper focus with the double-agents in Senator Organa’s circle and Cassian’s willingness to use the folks round him to flip the percentages.
CP: And it did one thing Andor has repeatedly completed which is use motion each as motion but in addition as one thing that informs character. It’s the second large second this season when Mon Mothma is confronted with the fact of “Holy shit, what have I gotten into? What does this actually demand of me?” and now I feel, she in a short time has to be taught to make her peace with it and transfer on.
ZZ: “Welcome to the Rebel!”
CP: And I don’t need to gloss over the speech itself too rapidly. I imply, my mouth was hanging open as I listened to it, as I felt the reality of it in my physique.
I do know the present was in manufacturing a while in the past and it’s not just like the writers meant to instantly touch upon the current second in some ultra-specific manner, however I actually urge of us who’re having fun with the present to learn Roxana Hadidi’s piece for Vulture, “Andor Dared To Say ‘Genocide’.” I feel she illuminates a giant a part of what makes these episodes extraordinary not only for Star Wars, however for tv as a complete proper now.
EG: I used to be sort of shocked Disney (which is at the moment dealing with a BDS boycott) allow them to do it.
ZZ: Similar.
Fortunately, we don’t dwell in a timeline the place a ruthless evil outdated man has management over a big legislative physique and may use concern to make them worship him and keep away from instantly criticizing him or pushing again on his plans.
And now for the second that really broke my coronary heart. Andor telling Bix he’s completed. That he needs a life together with her. He chooses her over all the things else. And her realizing, quietly as he says this, that she has to depart. It mirrors Dedra and Syril’s second. Syril walks away from the individual he loves as a result of he not believes within the trigger. Bix walks away from her love to avoid wasting the trigger she is aware of is extra necessary.
EG: She fired him over Zoom identical to any nice media government would.
CP: Completely crushing, and in a manner I do have combined emotions about.
We knew Bix needed to be out of the image by the point the sequence ended a method or one other, after all, provided that she’s not in Rogue One, and I do perceive why she would make this selection. I feel the story and our understanding of who she is help it properly. However I did see somebody on Bluesky comment that it’s nearly as if Andor, as a present, thinks that to be actually dedicated to a insurrection or a resistance motion, you may’t produce other shut attachments, when in reality after all you may.
Finally I’m cool with Bix making this selection, unhappy as it’s, but it surely did make me really feel that perhaps someplace within the midst of all of this, there might have been one lasting, wholesome, glad relationship as a substitute of a complete insurrection of Luthens who’ve product of their minds a sunless area. Nicely, I take it again. Okay-2SO did simply present up so we all know there’s some mild in Cassian’s life!
ZZ: I completely get that criticism. And I feel there are smaller examples of relationships lasting on this insurrection. Mothma and Erskin (not romantic, however nonetheless) and Wilmon and that lady within the Ghorman resistance. So I’m not bought on the concept the present is attempting to say that, however I get the criticisms.
And sure, Cassian has met Okay-2SO! It was good to listen to Alan Tudyk’s voice on the finish. Tony Gilroy talked about within the behind the scenes video about this episode that having Bix depart Andor proper as Okay-2SO enters his life felt like the proper transfer. And I agree. I actually actually actually hope we get to see them be buddies and insurgent buddies. We deserve that!
EG: For now it looks like they haven’t actually resolved Bix’s struggles. Her leaving felt as a lot about her working away because it did forcing him to commit.
CP: I agree. I ponder if we’ll see any extra of her within the last episodes, or perhaps study what she does in some spin-off comedian or different story. I’d be curious to seek out out!
ZZ: I hope so! I really feel like taking Bix out of the sequence like this lets them race to Rogue One, which the ultimate three episodes will do, with out having to determine causes she wasn’t round. And now they’ve this superior character folks like from a preferred present that they’ll use in future tales set through the Unique Trilogy. I’d like to see Bix in additional stuff. I additionally know the second she learns about Cassian will probably be heartbreaking.
And so, right here we’re. The subsequent three episodes will probably be set within the days earlier than Rogue One. It’s coming to an finish and I’m each excited to see it wrap up and unhappy its ending. Are you all able to say goodbye to Andor?
EG: No. I maintain wishing there was an Andor immersive sim or Cyberpunk 2077-model RPG.
CP: Probably not! That’s the one downside of the three-episode drop format: all of it involves an finish a lot sooner.
However I’m additionally glad the present has burned so brightly, that Tony Gilroy and co. made it so dense with drama and character and relevance and didn’t attempt to unfold it out or water it down. At this level, I’m simply hoping for a powerful ending, one which cements Andor’s place even additional as one of many biggest works of storytelling ever set within the Star Conflicts universe.
ZZ: I’ll see you all subsequent week for the tip. I’m not prepared both.
